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You Are Not Alone
Exploring the Double-Edged Sword of Artificial Intelligence: Potential, Ethics, and Societal Impact
Ever wish you could outsource the humdrum tasks like grocery shopping and house cleaning to a robot? What if your child's assignments could be completed by an artificial intelligence system? In this riveting discussion, Greg and I explore this reality and more. We delve into the realm of AI, analyzing their emotionless efficiency, their role in education, and even the fallout when students exploit these systems. We reflect on the ethical quagmire this could lead to and the intriguing changes we could expect in future classrooms.
Does the idea of a superintelligence outsmarting us send chills down your spine? Or perhaps it's a thrilling prospect? As we foray into this exhilarating topic, we uncover the double-edged sword that comes with AI - its immense potential for good, and the unnerving potential for misuse. We draw comparisons to the world's most ethical hacker, using his skills for the betterment of society. We also reminisce about the early days of the internet and its absence of regulations, drawing parallels with the current AI landscape.
From Snapchat filters to diagnosing diseases, AI is subtly embedded into our everyday lives. Greg and I dissect how this technology is reducing human error and transforming industries. However, we also address the rising concern of deep fakes, exploring how this AI innovation could tilt the scales of public opinion. As we wrap up this engaging discussion, we leave you with food for thought - the astounding ways AI could enrich our lives and the societal repercussions that we must brace ourselves for. So strap in, and join us for this mind-boggling journey into the world of artificial intelligence.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the You Are Not Alone podcast. I'm your co-host, debbie Gold, and I'm here with my co-host and son, greg, and we're so glad that you're here. Each week on the show we will talk about issues that matter most to you and it is our wish that you will find hope, encouragement and a little bit of Jesus in every show. Again, we're so glad that you're here and thanks for listening. Hello, welcome to another episode of the You Are Not Alone podcast. I'm here with Greg and we're coming off coming down, coming off of the 4th of July weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was so much fun.
Speaker 1:It felt like it was a week, honestly. Yeah, so many different events, four and five days. It was crazy.
Speaker 2:It was fun. It was so much fun. Had to see a lot of people, fireworks, good food, so much food.
Speaker 1:So much food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Should have got to the gym today, but I know, me too, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i'm gonna hit it tonight, so I'll make up for it.
Speaker 1:So there we go. Yeah so, yeah so. But today, because I was off for four days, i got really productive. When I woke up this morning, cleaned, ran on my errands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you went to every store and all the stuff. I know.
Speaker 1:Did all my returns.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was so good and so productive, and I love feeling that way.
Speaker 2:That's great Yeah.
Speaker 1:So today we're talking about AI.
Speaker 2:Artificial intelligence Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my question is is AI gonna take away, take the place of me running my errands and me cleaning my house? No, I don't think it's there yet is it?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so. I mean once they start putting it into robots. You know commands and stuff like that, maybe you know you won't have any more grocery runs or anything like that.
Speaker 1:I could avoid that now with curbside, not curbside, they deliver to you.
Speaker 2:Dude, they deliver it to your house then.
Speaker 1:My friend Nikki has it delivered, really Wow. Anyway, i like to pick out my own vegetables and fruit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Want someone else to do that.
Speaker 2:In my state. Oh yeah, it's like you don't want, you know, the brown, the lemon or whatever like that, i'd be all mad Yeah you're yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd be like complaining.
Speaker 2:Quality control Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Yeah, so not now, but it could be coming, yeah, so Greg and I want to talk about AI because it's such a current hot topic, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is, and I remember hearing a little bit about it. Gosh school was still in and we got a letter from the high school, where Chase goes and he's. They were saying that their kids were using AI to do their papers and yeah all of that and that's when it really started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean, that's when we started talking about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i remember it too. I was in class and someone was showing it to me. Yeah, he was my buddy, grant. He was using this exact app that I'm on right now and he just he, literally I've heard of AI, or I heard of AI before that. He blew my mind in English class. He was like, alright, let me, just what do you want to talk about? And I was like I don't know, dude, like pizza, i don't know. So he wrote in pizza and this the AI. it literally wrote a five page paper about pizza, the different types of people, pizza, the best bit of coconut stuff, like that. In quarter of a minute it just started going down the screen just typing and I've never seen anything like this before. so I started freaking out. I was like what?
Speaker 1:is this I was like, are you?
Speaker 2:kidding me Like, what is school? I was just thinking about the future. I was like, dude, what is school gonna be like in five years, when this progresses? How are people gonna come about this and stuff like that? And it's just mind-blowing too. Yeah, so I think yeah now kids were using it in school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it can be. It's very factual. It doesn't have emotions, so it wouldn't say like you and I we were trying to get pizza last night and we were like we had to go to the third place because one place was out of pizza dough and the other place was closed.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But we were doing the. You know, i like this place because it tastes so much better than the other place, this place puts garlic on theirs, and this place doesn't have garlic, and you know, So AI is.
Speaker 2:It gives no emotion because, it's just. It's not opinions at all, it's just facts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, it's facts. It's like it's processing stuff, like old computers used to process stuff. I've seen.
Speaker 2:I've seen like memes on Instagram of like these girls papers that were literally says like written by chat GPT at the front top right of the corner of the page or something like that, and it's a big fat zero. Yeah, kids are just getting caught all over just using this stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, when I was at college actually they sent out an email and I heard a couple kids, not in my class, but in a different class. They got caught using it, so they were using it on like an English paper, something like that.
Speaker 1:Right. So that's God. there's so much to talk about there. There's, you know, the whole fact that what are we learning when we have somebody write our own papers? I mean, i know, back in the day when you went to college, some guys would have their girlfriends write their papers for them. But really the truth is, what are you learning if you're not going through that exercise yourself? Right, that's one thing, but then there's also the moral, the ethical side of that.
Speaker 2:I mean that's essentially cheating. Yeah, not Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:So I think that one of the disadvantages of AI is that it will. It's very easy for people to be morally challenged by this. Yeah, yeah, they could make decisions because, oh God, that sounds so easy, or?
Speaker 2:It is so easy You literally pull up your phone right. You send message and you just type it in and then boom your English assignment or your you know history assignment's done, yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know I'm a big on ethics and moral, you know, because I feel that's important, based on my religious beliefs. And you know I want to be honest and I you know there's just so many. You know I want to do the right thing.
Speaker 2:And yeah.
Speaker 1:And even I can be challenged by that at times. But can you even just imagine?
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Yeah, i know It's going to be terrible for teachers to Kids don't really get that sometimes.
Speaker 1:You know the Gen Z group that we talk to Yeah. They don't really get that. They think, oh, i don't have time for this, this would be so much easier. Yeah, the kids in my class Short cuts, yeah kids in my class.
Speaker 2:They were sick of the teacher.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They were just trying to get all the class and like for like, I know a kid that used chat EPD every single day for the English assignments just so we could get out of class early, and it worked Because we had like little daily assignments. She was like we're had a little paragraph on this and this and this and then boom every time.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Boom easy, 100. So.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see that 100 looks good, but how do you feel about yourself, right?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, I mean it's so hard for teachers too to like check it, and even you know, see, Sometimes it's obvious, though you know.
Speaker 1:But I think they have programs and stuff that the schools are using to somehow look at that, i don't know, like my school used an app like called Turn It In.
Speaker 2:That did like a verification.
Speaker 2:You know, you had to like sign an agreement or something that this is your work And it like does a little fact checker or like an AI checker on it. But I mean, yeah, it's scary because you can just get away with so much And it's so quick and anyone can access it. I mean, i pulled it up on my phone in what two seconds? And I literally showed you just an article for an example before this, an essay on AI that took, yeah, a minute to write And it's like three pages.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Talks about the pros, cons, good, bad, and it's very well written too.
Speaker 1:So So you know another thing kind of this kind of ties into, i mean, how is it going to affect employing other people having jobs Like jobs, yeah, absolutely. I mean I'm already asking well, is this going to be able to clean my house one day? I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean probably, because if you think about it like those Roombas, those automatic vacuum cleaners just wait till they start putting microphones on there. But that's going to be scary, because what if the microphones are linked to something?
Speaker 1:Like our phones are. Everybody knows everything we're doing, everything we're looking at. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Privacy is not a thing anymore.
Speaker 1:That's a disadvantage, right? Well, it's going to get even worse. Oh, very much so. It's another factor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean, just wait till they start having, you know, facial recognition on everything. But yeah, like you were saying, reducing employment or like jobs, think about car manufacturers you know, Henry Ford with the. He started the assembly line back then with humans.
Speaker 2:Now the assembly line is robots, you know, so it's kind of doing that same thing. But I think this AI thing could be doing a lot more. Like, let's say, dell's going to fire 50,000 workers in five years and just have AI bots, you know, typing in data, typing in spreadsheets, putting information in things like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that is.
Speaker 2:It's boring, but it's easy for people like to do it.
Speaker 1:I mean there are people that enjoy that kind of thing for you.
Speaker 2:I know you don't, but if you don't have to spend money doing something, why spend money on it when you can get done? you know by machine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, machine So well, and so that's the. I really would like to talk to someone that works for a car manufacturer, just to see their take, and a lot of the machinery is robotic. Yeah, but it's also controlled human there to kind of manage and watch. Yeah, you know so you know, I think it reduces some workload, but I don't know that it replaces a human.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i've seen, i saw a Ford video and like it was in Michigan, it was like one of the big Ford factories And it was pretty cool because it's still an assembly line but it's like half of its robots and then there's also humans working on it together, like, let's say, the robots they bend the middle, you know, and then the Ford people, they take the metal off the machine, they put it on the car you know. So that's kind of like a yeah, it's like both in both, or half and half.
Speaker 1:You need a little bit of each.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty much Because it does.
Speaker 1:the robot would make that process move faster Yeah because you don't want to bend steel.
Speaker 2:You know it's going to take a lot of labor, power and all that. So when they are or the machine can just do it easy.
Speaker 1:I just feel like sometimes we were just trying to rush everything all the time. Let's how many cars can we?
Speaker 2:get the future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean just over time and you know, with social media, you know it just makes people's lives simpler and faster and and and you get no downtime and no, you're from paying and paying and paying. I know we did the social media. That was one of our biggest listen to podcasts. So when we talked about social media, oh yeah, well, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2:I agree with that too. Like why does everything feel so rushed? I just had an iPhone 11 that broke I don't know two months ago. Like that I had that phone, it still felt new to me, it was. It still felt brand new Four years old, it still felt brand new to me. But then the iPhone 14 is out already And it's like wait. What's wrong with this phone?
Speaker 2:You know, or same with computers, you know there's always eight computers or nine computers coming out today when there's still problems with this one. It's like if this one isn't perfect yet, why rush the next one or the next? you know 12 of them out, so yeah. Yeah, I do feel like things are rushed sometimes, So it's a good point though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Um, We're listening to Ian Must talk on one of the news stations And when you know, kind of when this all kind of started, you know they would want to put that six month hold moratorium on and sit. You know, let's everyone back off for six months, because we need to really look at this a little bit deeper and look at what the ramifications could be and all that. And so he was talking, and he talked about this becoming these. Us, as humans, are creating something.
Speaker 2:Bless you, it's my little sneeze.
Speaker 1:We're creating something that is smarter than us. We're creating for the first time ever. Yes, for the first time ever.
Speaker 2:Humans have always been the smartest thing on the earth until now.
Speaker 1:Until now, yeah. And what is that going to look like in five years and 10 years?
Speaker 2:We're starting to create super intelligence.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We just have, you know, intelligence.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But the thing about super intelligence is it doesn't make mistakes or it doesn't think it makes mistakes. So you give something that, like something that thinks it's perfect, a bunch of power.
Speaker 1:It could go very bad, or you know, but it depends on who's controlling it. Yeah, yeah, well, see, it goes back to if it's the person controlling this ethical Yeah, yeah, it has to be ethical. And that's my scare. My scare is that there's a lot of bad people out there that are just doing. they do things for money, They do things for notoriety, They do things for reasons that are you know not you know, not straight up and good.
Speaker 2:Not morally straight or not ethical. I was watching this documentary on the number one ethical hacker in the world. His name is Ryan Montgomery. This man is probably this guy. He was interviewed on a podcast by Navy Seal and he's had, you know, multiple Navy Seals on, but this little, this was a frail hacker. He's like little guy, you know he's frail, but he he was probably the most dangerous man I've ever seen because he could. He had enough equipment to wipe out probably half this country in seconds, but he was ethical and he actually took down child.
Speaker 1:You know trafficking rings and bus and things like that. Yeah, use it for good, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's got a thing called 516F that stops trafficking rings in the US and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:See, that's amazing. So he uses his hacking for good.
Speaker 2:But like, think about it, if this guy he wasn't ethical, the damage that he could do you know to people. Like he can steal credit cards, he can. He was showing me this, or showing people this little handheld device and he's like, yeah, i can, i can transmit to a Boeing 747 by Southwest Airlines and I can tell them where to go right now, like I can hack into the disease, and it's like, yeah, it's extremely legal, but if someone got their hands on this, you know they could, you know, tell the plane. You know there's another plane coming in the airway, you need to change courses and just screw up, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow. Like it all depends on who is in control, who's the, who's the driver, right, yeah, it's just. That's such a good example of what I'm talking about And cause. there are people all over this world that will use this for evil.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's, yeah, it's very scary.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:And Elon Musk is like terrified of it. Even in that little interview I saw you could tell his body language. He was like he was very nervous in that interview Uncomfortable Yeah, talking about it because he was searching for his words and trying to be careful. Yeah, he's watching what he's saying too. Yeah, because he was talking about it wasn't the founder of Google, was it Or was?
Speaker 1:it. Yeah, it was. It was the founder of Google.
Speaker 2:I did too, but he was trying to make.
Speaker 1:My listeners probably know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a digital super intelligence or like a digital god. When he was trying to work with Elon many years ago And Elon was trying to warn him about, like, the super dangerous consequences of this thing because you know this has never been done before, so we don't have any idea of what the cons could be He said you know Elon was joking, you know Terminator type style. You know it might not be that extreme, but at the same time I think it could.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very well, because we don't know. Well, and you think This is brand new. Yes, and you think about your relations with China right now, which, oh my gosh. yes, China is coming into our country. They're buying our land. They're spying on our nuclear facilities.
Speaker 2:But China is also very well with electronics. you know lots of things And they're more advanced in AI than We are. Yeah, yeah, which is very scary Yeah so So It's all about who has you know they are and who's you know, who's hands it's in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is sort of the. I know you're all stuffed up.
Speaker 2:I've allergies, excuse me, listeners.
Speaker 1:Well, i was thinking about. You know the whole regulation, you know how we have everything in this country is regulated, the sale of goods, the sale of goods the imports, the exports the. FDA food, yeah, trafficking of food, everything has regulations and I have to say AI is not regulated yet.
Speaker 2:But usually what?
Speaker 1:happens, is something bad will happen, and that's.
Speaker 2:And then they put regulations on it.
Speaker 1:Yes, so they go backwards. It's like that with the internet. There's no regulations on the internet. Yeah, absolutely, and I remember when that first came out And guess what's on the internet?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you find everything bad and everything good.
Speaker 1:Everything.
Speaker 2:Everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like I don't even know what you kids have seen on the internet, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2:I can only imagine. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But there's no regulations on that And I remember when the internet first came out I said that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean it's a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's become an amazing thing Yeah, because you can find information on anything. But you were probably just thinking I had your like, how is this going to advance?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is not a good thing if there's no regulations.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think AI is in that same boat right now, as like some of our fun little apps we like to use, like Facebook or Twitter, or Or it's not Twitter but Instagram, yeah.
Speaker 2:And regulations are so hard to put online Because you can just say, yeah, I'm over 21. You know, just click a button.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i'm.
Speaker 1:You see, that's the perfect thing that needs. That's what little kids do on the iPads and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the mom puts parental controls. The kid's like oh no, she put parental controls, he goes to settings, he goes down, he goes to the app Parental controls logs you know Yeah. Yeah, easy Yeah. And the entire thing is almost like a loophole, if I would describe it.
Speaker 1:Well it is. Yeah, it's a loophole. There should be some kind of regulations that says you have got to put this in place so that kids cannot. There's got to be some ID, some way to identify the age of somebody that's getting onto your application.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but for AI, let's say a regulation of how much it can develop.
Speaker 1:Because you know every time.
Speaker 2:It takes information and you type it in. It's kind of like trying to learn something too, so it can get you know more perfected. So it's developing itself. It's basically learning and learning and learning. So we should put regulations on it and think how much we can learn, how much it can advance to where it can't, you know, do harm to it.
Speaker 1:What can it do? Yeah, what exactly would it be safe to allow AI to do? Think, if there's someone not mentally well, Who do we have to call to get this out there?
Speaker 2:Think, if there's someone not mentally well, he wants to hold on to people, he types in AI how to make so and so and so.
Speaker 1:You know, like some kind of a mom or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i was saying. But I was looking at chat, gpt And it said like inappropriate required or yeah, trained to decline inappropriate requests. So I mean it's got some limitations on there But it's not like actual regulations. Said and stoned, you know yeah because this is so new.
Speaker 1:So I'm thinking a little bit about time here, but you know I don't want to. I feel like we're kind of talking about a lot of the Disadvantages or the issues that could happen be, and I think that's important to talk about, because I Don't think people think about that. You know, like, what are the ramifications of this? Yeah, I think we've been hitting that pretty well.
Speaker 2:I gotta say, though, ai is it's stupid cool, even though it's very scary. I agree It is We use it with our podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah so um.
Speaker 2:I mean, you can literally look up how to make amazing Chicken Alfredo and it'll show you a recipe in half a second.
Speaker 1:You're gonna make that for dinner? I could.
Speaker 2:Shake it Alfredo. I'm making for you next, in five years chicken Alfredo is a classic Italian American dish that typically consists of fettuccine pasta. Yep, there you go. All right ingredients with the amount tablespoons cups instructions. Yeah, okay, so it gives you everything everything I need, the how-to, and it's very well done, right.
Speaker 1:Well, and here's. So here's a thing cool.
Speaker 2:I couldn't do that five years ago.
Speaker 1:No, i'd have to Google it. I mean, i don't get it but it'd take me a second. That's just. That was just right there. Oh it's a quick half a second, Yeah, but I think some of the Advantages of the pros so reduces human error right, i mean no, absolutely, for sure You know. I think that's really important cuz.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's picking up. It's picking up on its mistakes and this learning like I said every time right. Yeah, it's obviously gonna reduce human error. I mean it doesn't, it doesn't go to sleep.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't go to sleep and I know for me you know I can, it doesn't complain, i can sit and do you know, right at my desk or do work, but I've got to get up and move around and, you know, take a little break here and there. Yeah and or if I get tired or it's too much, then I feel like, okay, i'm just gonna put this down and come back tomorrow. AI is not gonna do that.
Speaker 2:No, you can tie there around the morning. They're around the clock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they whoever they are. The programming yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2:It's advancing so quick to it's coming up with new things, new Innovations or inventions. I mean, you can use it for so many different things. You know Snapchat, that social media Yeah, yeah, they have an AI bought on there too. You go to your people and Then it's go. It goes, my AI, and you can just customize the little Fit they're wearing and stuff like that and you can just ask it questions and it responds instant. Yeah, ask questions about anything. So, like social media, like Snapchat, two years ago or a year ago it did not have AI. Mm-hmm, when it first popped up on my brother's phone because I was like wait, you have an AI on Snapchat, how do you get that? he's like, oh, it's the new update or whatever, and I was like This is coming. This has become a crazy. I was seeing AI everywhere.
Speaker 1:So yeah, i don't know how it would. What about the? I know they talk about them. The world of medicine and AI.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh Yeah the medical applications.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i, there's gonna be. I mean, they will have machines that do a lot of the surgical stuff, which I kind of think there's already some of that now.
Speaker 2:Yeah but um but I mean, you know, diagnosis and things and clinical trials, things like that, that could be, you know, extremely helpful. Yeah, so That's super cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to do. You want to talk a little bit about deep fake.
Speaker 2:I would love to. I was actually just gonna go deep breaks.
Speaker 1:So I did not know what deep, deep fake was.
Speaker 2:Did you write down the definition of a deep fake or not? I did not, but I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1:You showed me an example. Yeah, so several actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah so a deep fake like, let's say, there's a video of our president Biden giving a speech, right, but the voice it sounds like Seth MacFarlane from Family Guy air it's. Peter Griffin talking right, but it's matching Biden's lips. But it's a yeah man. You know you want to go to the beach, brian, or whatever.
Speaker 1:And it's his voice, yeah, yeah, but it's his voice, and him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be considered like a deep fake. There's, like you know, fake presidential commercials. There's like funny pizza commercials. Yeah um, i mean, there's so many deep fakes. They're all over the internet as well. I mean there's Elon Musk singing wrecking ball by Miley Cyrus whoever thought that would you know ever exist.
Speaker 1:Oh, and you know what else? Oh, go ahead and finish your deep fake.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, there's Morgan Freeman Talking, but that's not actually Morgan Freeman, That's a bot. I mean, it's just, it's advancing so quickly, but it's scary because it could get political. and And if it gets political, like, let's say, joe Biden is saying you know, I am gonna bomb China, the minister of China which is really Yeah, or like someone, yeah, messing with it, to say that, yeah, it's a joke, whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the minister, prime minister of China, sees that video, thinks oh shit, sorry, we're going to war exactly it could be extremely bad and they get going, Yeah so it could go both ways totally, but we've never had this issue before, um, and you know, with political things or with different topics. It could be used on everything. It could be used in sports, it could be used, you know everything sure it.
Speaker 1:That reminds me too of, like You know, public opinion. You know, i think You have someone like Who I don't know. So a world a world leader say saying certain things that are that are like crazy off the wall. Yeah, people start believing that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, Wait, i never said that. No, no, no, it's, it's right here.
Speaker 1:It's right. Yeah, and it's really not the person saying it.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute, yeah, and it looks real too, so they're convinced.
Speaker 1:It's very hard. How do you defend yourself from that? Yeah, you. I don't know, because you know, that's how people learn to sway their their opinions on stuff is when they hear things over and over and over. Then they start to believe those things right, Yeah and we really need to Kind of weigh out both sides of every situation. I try to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So the but the one thing I just want to say. I know we have to get wrapped up here, but I heard that The Beatles right, you know the Beatles yeah music group.
Speaker 2:I did so John Lennon is deceased He was.
Speaker 1:He was murdered in New York City years and years ago. Yeah, well, so he wasn't. He was writing a song at the time, or had written a song that never got Published, that they never ended up producing, right. So they're going to take his song and they're gonna use his voice and his musical ability. No, there's yeah was he a guitarist? I don't remember He was Horace, but they're gonna use his voice, they're gonna use his Dive, a dead man, and they're gonna produce this, this, the single Yeah, so what?
Speaker 2:they do they. They get a regular guy like, let's say, me.
Speaker 2:They sing the lyrics of the song Yeah, let's say I'm singing Michael Jackson's thriller, right, so? And then I turn on the filters and it goes over my voice and it sounds like just like Michael Jackson. Yeah, yeah, i've seen videos. Um, i mean, i've listened to music and it's insanely scary how realistic it is. And When it first started, i'd say it's what it started in 2022 AI music And it didn't sound that like convincing at all. So I was like this is kind of stupid. I Picked up Another song about a month ago. Oh My gosh, i thought it was like the actual artist who was deceased right now.
Speaker 2:So I was like whoa, this is progress, and it was the same artist from two years ago. Yeah so I was like this is just advanced so quickly. So in like two years we're gonna have concerts with, you know, Michael Jackson to pop and all the people.
Speaker 1:So Yeah, Anyway, okay. Well, I want to wrap up today and Hope you all had a great fourth. Yeah, that was so fun and I Would can be the call. What can, what can we ask our listeners to do? from our episode, greg, i would like to mention something about. Just try to keep your ethical self in line when you're, you know, approaching AI or being approached by it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but what do you think, what do y'all think about AI too? Do you think it's, you know, good, bad, yeah. What are you concerned about? What are you excited about for the future? Right, you know, with AI, because this is so new to all of us.
Speaker 1:It's so new for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so really want you to Think about how you stand with AI and what it means to you, and what your? concerns are Yeah and all those things. So All right, listeners, we really appreciate you all. If you like what we had to talk about, hit subscribe. Share this with your friends, please, and And then have conversations about this. This would be. This is a great topic.
Speaker 2:No, it's yeah, It's very interesting to talk about interesting and it's it's hot right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good stuff, yeah, anyway, well, thank you for listening and just remember that you are not alone.
Speaker 2:It's perfect I.