You Are Not Alone With Debbie & Greg Gold
As a mother and son team, Debbie and Greg come together to talk about the realities and struggles we all face in today’s world. They cover a wide array of topics from mental well being to current events to teachings that will lead you to a relationship with Jesus Christ. As Christians, they know there is one thing that brings peace, hope, and encouragement to anything life throws our way, and that is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. You don't know what you don't know, so come along on the ride. Your life and heart will be changed forever!
You Are Not Alone With Debbie & Greg Gold
Pursuing a Personal Relationship With Jesus: Practical Steps, Real Stories, Lasting Promises
We share how a personal relationship with Jesus begins, grows, and transforms daily life. From first steps and prayer to the role of the Holy Spirit, we offer practical ways to start and an invitation to say yes.
• why a relationship with Jesus matters now
• Jesus wants relationship with everyone
• first steps: receiving Christ and honest surrender
• the Holy Spirit as comforter and guide
• life change: hope, direction, empathy, community
• daily habits that deepen faith
• reflection exercise: hearing Jesus at the door
• resources: Bible study, church next steps, contact
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Hello, this is Debbie and Greg Gold, and welcome to the You Are Not Alone podcast, where we cover topics that will help you navigate life. And as Christians, we know that we can't do it alone. We need Jesus. We encourage you to join us on the journey that will help you begin or deepen your walk with Christ no matter where you are. Welcome to another uplifting episode of the You Are Not Alone podcast. Today, Greg and I are going to be talking about what it means to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. And specifically, we'll be looking at what's important about that, um, how we maintain it, and how we begin the process. So, uh, Greg, why don't you share with our audience one reason why you think it's important to have a relationship uh with Christ? I know you've been walking your walk for quite a while.
SPEAKER_00:I have, and um it's changed my life. And I mean, there's so many like outlets, news sources, media, things out there, you know, talking about so many subjects, especially podcasts, you know, how that's blundled on in the past five years, four years. And I think getting out to people and just like showing them like that, you know, a mother and son can do this. Like we can we can get microphones and we can talk about Jesus Christ, and we can make a small little following off of this. I mean, we've made little fans already so far.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And we've reached, you know, almost continents, you know. We've had listeners in Asia, Australia, uh, Canada, um, Japan. That's exciting. Switzerland, Russia. I mean, it's like, whoa, it's super cool. And I don't know if they translate these to English or their native language, you know. It's like I don't know. But it's like whatever they do. I mean, I find it fascinating.
SPEAKER_02:I have enough to manage this right here without knowing and translating it.
SPEAKER_00:The thing is, like the fact that we've reached so many people like that already, it's like just inspiring. It's like who else can we reach? Yeah. Like, I want to get to the Middle East. Wouldn't that be insane?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like Jerusalem or like oh.
SPEAKER_02:We'll have to make a note to announce that when that happens.
SPEAKER_00:That'll be, yeah, that'll be a big gold right there.
SPEAKER_02:So sure.
SPEAKER_00:Uh that's just one of the many reasons, too. Also, I feel like there's kind of a small revival. I I don't know, like specifically, but like for the younger generation, I'm seeing a lot of people like in the UK and like a lot of these protests are going towards Christ, right? I've seen a lot of UK protests, and they're like, they're taking back Christianity for their country. And I'm like, it's super proud to see. I mean, there's massive protests with flags of crosses going on, and they're waving their their native flag with a cross next to it. It's like wow.
SPEAKER_02:Awesome. Uh, you know, I love love hearing about that. I I'm not on social media as much as you are. Um, how about yourself personally? Why do you think it's important?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, it humbles you every day, knowing that I will not be afraid. The Lord is always with me, and I have, you know, I have protection over everything, and I have somebody to always look forward to, my Lord. So it's like, yeah, it just guides you in your everyday life. It teaches you everything, and like just reading scripture daily or little Bible verses or here and there, like going into Psalms or Revelations or um Isaiah, it's like it just teaches you life lessons, right? You know, that otherwise you would have learned a long time down the road, I'd say.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I and I think for me, um it is just changed who I am as a person. I I've been doing this walk for like 20 years. Yeah. You are two, two and three.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, honestly, two. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And um, it's just been amazing. It's life-changing. So we want to share it. Um, and then I guess you could continue on.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah. Um, with all that's happened with like the death of Charlie Kirk. I mean, obviously that was a big, big hit for you know, a lot of younger generations and a lot of, you know, left leftists and rightists.
SPEAKER_02:Those were his following. They were younger people. Yeah, college, high school, age.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. Yeah. Christ was his message. And also freedom of speech was also his message. Right. Message. Um, we were amid that spiritual revival was like no other. I mean, us I'm seeing it right now all over call the college campuses with t-shirts, with merch and stuff like that. It's beautiful.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, with more people going to church and reading the reading the Bible, we feel like there's a great need to help our listen listeners understand what what a personal relationship with Jesus is so they can continue their journey and deepening their faith. Right. So okay.
SPEAKER_02:So um Chris, I think that um Jesus is, you know, having a personal relationship is real um central to Christ, you know, Christian the Christian belief.
SPEAKER_01:It is, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And um it implies intimacy, intimacy, I think ongoing communication and just you know, spiritual growth or transformation.
SPEAKER_00:Leadership, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, eventually leading into leadership and and um many other things. But um, so that's kind of what it's all about today. And um our first point is that I want to um really help our listeners understand, Greg, that Jesus wants a relationship with us.
SPEAKER_00:To the loved one, yeah. Yes, everyone.
SPEAKER_02:It doesn't matter like who you are or what you've done in your life, none of that matters to Jesus. He wants to know, he wants us to know him intimately. And notice I didn't say it the other way around that he wants to know us intimately, but because he already does. He already does. He knew us before we were even conceived, we were even conceived. In Jeremiah 1, 5, it says, Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set you apart. So, like God has that what that means to me set us apart. He's got an individual plan for you and for you, and you know, everybody, everybody in this universe. And he's had that pegged from the very beginning of of you know creating this earth. And so I think that's really exciting. And I like to take this walk because I want to know what's got what God's plan is for me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And you know, little by little it's um it gets unveiled, and uh it's pretty exciting. Uh let's see.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, just like, yeah, wanting wanting Jesus to have a relationship with everyone. Everyone like thinks, oh, I'm a sinner, I can't have this. Oh, I'm an atheist, I can't do this. Jesus hung out with sinners, with sinful people, with like the worst of the worst, and he turned around for the better. He taught them that, like, hey, nobody is everyone's faulty. We're all human, right? Like, nobody's perfect. But like, just take a look at yourself, think about what you're doing, and then like think about it, you know?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and love and he he changed people's lives just for the better by walking the way he walked, not longs, acting the way he acted, alongside the broken, alongside the broken, yes, the lonely, the hurt. And they saw that, and then you know, people saw that and they wanted to be more and more like Jesus. And as Christians, that is our that's sort of our role right now. It's called disciples, yes, disciples, and we um we are to walk in the feet of Jesus and uh set an example of what that looks like. Um, so anyway, Jay Jesus wants a relationship with us, and um, but it's there for the taking, it just doesn't happen on its own. You have to seek Jesus, right, Greg? In Revelations 3.20, it says um Jesus is speaking and he says, Here I am, I stand at the door and I knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they will eat with me. Referring to fellowship, starting a relationship, all of that. So he is standing there. He needs us to come to him and say, I am hungry for you. I want you, I want to know about you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so like it's first accepting Christ into your heart. Like a personal relationship of Jesus Christ, with Jesus Christ begins the moment that we realize that we have a need for him, or that we like we're doing something wrong in our lives, or that like we're we can't do this alone, right? We need somebody to guide us down the path of life.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of times it's some, you know, kind of hit and bottom.
SPEAKER_00:Brock bottom.
SPEAKER_02:You know, life is not working. Hello.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Been there, done that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it might be like events that happen, like maybe you've gone through divorce or like a breakup or like a near death accident or like a car crash, or like maybe uh maybe a friend even invites you to church one day. He's like, Hey, you wanna you want to come see this experience? You know, like, I don't know. And then you come and you have this overwhelming feeling, and you're like, oh my gosh, where was this all my life? You know, because maybe you didn't grow up in a household that's like maybe they didn't practice it, or maybe they said they were Christian, but they didn't go to church, or like really even do anything like Christian like. Like, I mean, they said like I've had so many friends that are like, Oh, we're Christian. Yeah, not a single Bible in their house, not a single cross in their house. I mean, I didn't say yeah, they can say they're I have nothing wrong with that, right? That's okay. No malice towards them at all. When I hear you judge, that's it. No, yeah, exactly. Exactly. I don't judge them at all. And it's like the fact that they can say that, I'm like, hey, I'm proud of you. But like they don't practice it, they live sinful lives, that not a single word of scripture. I asked them one Bible verse, they're like, they look at me, I'm like, who saw them? They're like, I'm like, oh.
SPEAKER_01:Well, let me tell you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So it's like some people can say it, but you gotta walk the walk to talk the talk or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I totally get it. Yeah. Um, so if you don't mind, I'd like to share uh my testimony on how I began my walk.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, please.
SPEAKER_02:And um, so this was when Greg was about uh two-ish. Yeah. That was back in 2003. So yeah, Greg's 22 now, going to be 23 and um single. Anyway. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:I had to say that. I can't believe I'm 23 of them.
SPEAKER_02:That's that's I can't either. It's crazy. Um, but, anyways, I um I hadn't been involved in religion for about 25 years prior to that. And uh, when Greg was about three, I realized I needed Christ back into my life um because I didn't want Greg growing up. And you know the story. I didn't want you growing up like I did. And in my family, we were Presbyterian, and my mom, the typical Sunday, would look like my sister and I would, she's my older sister by two years. We'd get ready for uh church, and she would take us and drop us off at Sunday school, and then after that, my sister and I would go to uh the church service, and then my mom would pick us up after that. And so once in a while they would go to church, but rarely. And we never had discussions about Christ or the Bible or what it all meant. Um, and we never prayed at home together. And I just didn't want that.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, Yeah, didn't they didn't they drop you off? Sorry to interrupt, but like when they just like drop you off.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, they just would drop us off, and then mom would come back and pick us up when church was over. Yeah. In the beginning, or then back in uh 2005, I began, you know, I'm I'm seeing little Greg and I'm going, he's not gonna grow up like I did. And I began my search for a church, and I found a Bible-based church in Austin, and I decided to call that one home after I had researched and gone to and visited um several. And so it was at that point I began um we began our faith walk together as a family. Yeah. And so um after, so anyway, after the revelation um that we need Christ in our life, the next step is to receive Christ into our hearts. John uh verse one, chapter 12 reads, Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. So we have to receive Christ. We have to go through a little ritual, nothing big, and uh receive Christ into our heart. And then we just like that, we're child children of God. And anyway, the the the I think uh the part that I want to add in, which can be confusing and is something I didn't understand for a long time, but once we receive Christ into our heart, the Holy Spirit will come and live within us and the Holy Spirit forever. And the Holy Spirit is that um he's the one that guides us and comforts us and uh leads us in you know throughout our lives or daily lives. But also I think there's another important role, and that is uh that he gives us win wisdom about the things that God wants us to do. So, you know, you hear people say, I was praying and I heard God say, da-da-da-da-da. Well, that's the Holy Spirit intervening between what's God needing you to hear and uh what you you know actually hear. And um we must follow his wisdom and and not our own fleshly wisdom. And so when I pray, I I try so hard to try to remember to pray over every single opportunity. Because in my eyes, I would maybe think, oh, this is the way, this is it. But if I don't, and if if I pray about it, I might hear something different.
SPEAKER_00:It might be the opposite, yeah. Something different.
SPEAKER_02:So that's the the fleshly versus l listening to God's wisdom.
SPEAKER_00:And then one of your favorite parts of the podcast, I know that you do this a lot too. It's called the salvation prayer. Um, if you're ready to take the next next step of living your life with Jesus and accepting him as your Savior, you can place your hand on your heart and say the salvation prayer with me. So, Father God, I love you. I want to get you I want to get to know you better and live by your ways. Thank you, Jesus, for dying on the cross so that I can be forgiven of my sins and have eternal life. Please forgive me of my sins and come into my heart. I receive you as my Lord and Savior. In the name of Jesus, I pray. Amen. And if congratulations if you've said this prayer and accepted Jesus into your heart. If you said the salvation prayer, we would love to know. You can send us a message on our website. That is Debbie capital D-E-B-B-I-E and Greggold G-R-E-G-G-O-L-B dot com. That is Debbie and Greggold.com.
SPEAKER_02:Right. I don't think you need a capital, by the way.
SPEAKER_00:Just well, yeah, just Debbie and Greggold.com.
SPEAKER_02:There you go. That's it.
SPEAKER_00:I don't it used to maybe need capitals a long time ago, but so I'd say that your next step is to start exploring Bible-based churches in your area, just like mom and my mom did 20 years ago. Yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be Bible centered, but I mean a church of your liking, whatever you feel comfortable with, whatever speaks to you wherever you feel home, do that. Yeah, we welcome you. Either way, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. You're always welcome.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if you're going to church, go to church. If you're praising the Lord, praise the Lord. So not a wrong way to go about it.
SPEAKER_02:Not at all.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's all about just doing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. So what does a relationship with Jesus promise? There's four things I know. So it changes our relationships with others. That's huge. I saw that big in my life. And um I think it promotes in us some kind kindness, compassion, just the desire to serve. It's all those things that Jesus really has in his heart that we we, you know, we they start rubbing off on us. It's it's just kind of crazy how it works. But um, empathy, those are the kind of things that we're gonna start feeling, and we're gonna want to um they'll be noticed in our relationships. Hello, what are you looking at?
SPEAKER_00:I'm sorry, I'm distracted.
SPEAKER_02:Um it's gonna be uh you'll you'll see the effects of it in all your relationships, your family, your friends, just even strangers too. In your life. Right. All in your life. In general. Yes. And um I I do know we were do looking at some historical um listen, checking out how many uh uh downloads we've had for a particular podcast. And this is one of the the well, it is, it's actually the most listened to uh episode of our podcasting. It was um it's I'm sorry, don't uh you're I'm losing my train. Um not losing my train. Turn it off.
SPEAKER_00:I'm excited.
SPEAKER_02:Um June um 5th of 2025. That during that period, we did a three um three-week series on uh the the fruits of the spirit. And one of the this the middle episode was called Um Beyond Good Intentions, Living the Fruit That Transforms Relationships. And that is the number one podcast that we've had we've had people listen to.
SPEAKER_00:When you show me the numbers, I couldn't believe it. I was like, What?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Okay, so number two is it provides comfort, direction, and hope. And um I know when I, you know, have struggles or whatever, and then I get into my prayer time, I do feel comforted and I feel like I can turn all my worries over to God. It's peaceful, it's peaceful. And I I just am reminded that I I need to trust God with this because He again ultimately has the plan, right? For what is gonna happen here.
SPEAKER_00:Doesn't it say that you are not alone 365 times in the Bible?
SPEAKER_02:No, it says do not be afraid.
SPEAKER_00:Do not be afraid 365 times.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. Um, so it's that comfort, uh, he gives us direction, you know. When we're praying, you'll you'll feel directed in certain ways at times, at times you don't, and then you just keep praying about that. And I get I get hope. I I don't feel like I'm so stuck in every, you know, the things that I'm worried about. I feel like, okay, God's got this. And even if it doesn't turn out how I think it should right now, God's got a plan. It's okay. It's got a plan. It's gonna be okay because it's God's plan.
SPEAKER_00:And um that's like the best way to look at it.
SPEAKER_02:I know, and it's always got a plan. You can be so much more optimistic, right?
SPEAKER_00:It might be tough or it might be smooth, but like either way, if it's tough, it's gonna build you up stronger. You're gonna come out a stronger person, you're gonna learn something out of it. Life lessons or new frames, whether it may be, or it's easy and you just go and you just like go through it, right? So, either way, you can always learn something from it.
SPEAKER_02:It's a win-win. Yeah, you can't lose.
SPEAKER_00:Every experience is a learning lesson in life. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think the funny thing in it is if you are if you already you know know some of this stuff and you're a believer and you uh feel like you have a you know a personal relationship with Christ, you know. Sometimes we pray about stuff, we turn it over to God, and then like the next hour we we've got a back in our clutches. And that happens a lot, and then it's like, okay, give that back. That's not mine to take. So it's funny how we we do that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you humble yourself.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right? Um, and I think it's life-changing. Who I was 20 years ago is nothing like I am today, right? Well, you wouldn't know, but um, I've told you. I have to say, like my views have changed. Um I'm different with other people than I was before. I'm just happier. My values um and my outlook on life have been just totally reshaped. And I always say, your heart uh your heart will be changed in ways that you never imagined.
SPEAKER_00:Heard that one before, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And that, you know, just this will just touch the core of who you are. And then the fourth and fourth and last, it provides opportunities for community. And I I love that in connection. You're gonna start, you know, you're gonna you're gonna see yourself surrounded by other believers, and you're gonna have community with that, you're gonna have connection. You've experienced it with groups that you've done at church, volunteering at church. Totally. Yeah, you know, they they become your people. Oh, brothers, yeah. Yeah, and it it's pretty awesome. And so you start um adding to, you know, adding people to your to your life, and I think it's always important. I think we have different friends for different things. And um I'm telling you, these people that I have at church and my friends in that realm, um, I just feel so blessed and so supportive um having them. So um, oh yeah. Now I wanted to read uh we're talking about how life changing this is, and it's gonna change your heart forever. So um in 2016, I had published published a book. And in there I wrote um and uh there's an excerpt in here that I want to read to you. And this was before I had a relationship with Jesus. This is a short paragraph. What I experienced in childhood had lasting effects on me. As an adult, I avoided conflict, was filled with anxiety, felt the need to be in control of everything around me, and had trouble identifying my feelings. The only feelings I knew were happiness and anger. All of their feelings were foreign to me. I didn't trust anybody, not even myself. I had friends, but few of the relationships were deep like I longed for them to be. My husband and I struggled. Our marriage was far from loving, supportive, and connected. I was self-centered and cared only about me. My focus was on what everyone around me had and what I didn't have. I lacked confidence, and inside I was scared and miserable. And in contrast, I wrote a paragraph on how I would describe myself today, 20 years later. I would describe myself as positive, sociable, loyal, humorous, energetic, and honest. Even when I face challenges now or become concerned about the future, I remain hopeful and optimistic. My relationships are both abundant and fulfilling. I warmly embrace others and accept them as they are. I am greatly involved in church and have a great support system and through and friends and through the friends I have made there. While my life isn't perfect and I still encounter difficulties, I have learned to trust God with my circumstances. And today I would say I'm happy and reassured. So I went from being scared and miserable to happy and reassured.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, it just life-changing. And I know that's true for for everyone. And then I think the last point that we have, number point number four, is how do we deepen our faith? What are some things that we can do to make that happen? Um so we have I have a list here that we put together. Um, and now this does, I mean, I'm not gonna say this does require effort. It takes uh small commitment. Yeah, it takes obedience. I mean, that that is uh, you know, we have to put Jesus first. We have to put him as a priority in our lives. And and he should truly be number one in your life, above our above everything, everything, above all and everything else. Okay, so the first thing is uh pray daily. That's one way you're gonna deepen your faith. You know, that would they always say that it's about if you have a relationship, you have to spend time with that person, and uh praying daily is one way to do that, and there's many other benefits to praying.
SPEAKER_00:Um trying to live like Jesus, demonstrating love, mercy, kindness, forgiveness, and service.
SPEAKER_02:Right. And and I think that too, the more that you dive into this and the longer you're in relationship with Christ, those things are gonna start coming naturally to you because you're gonna be hearing it, you're gonna be reading about it in the Bible, and it just becomes a part of who you are.
SPEAKER_00:I mean more open, more personable, more humble, more supportive, more loving. I mean, just yeah. I mean, also, I mean, what goes along with that? Being receptive to his presence, which is called omnipresent, which is such a cool word. I love that word, omni.
SPEAKER_02:So, like he he is really, he's in our presence right now. He is here with us guiding this conversation. And there's a reason he's he, you know, popped in my head to mention that Greg is single.
SPEAKER_00:That was God. I was going on a whole nother route. I'm like, oh wow, omni sounds a bit like Omega, which means omega, which means, you know, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So anyway, he is present in your life and everything that you do. And um, so anyway, I always give him a hard time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We have fun, don't we?
SPEAKER_00:Reading the Bi yeah, we do. Yeah. Reading the Bible.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and that's like number one.
SPEAKER_00:Uh number, oh no. You'll discover who God is and you'll learn about Jesus and see how God wants us to live our lives. And also, it's the best story of all time. Yes, it's crazy. Quite an amazing story. And if you read the whole Bible, then we gotta give you something in the mail. So go to our website, Debbie and Greggold.com. Shoot us in the mail. Show us, show us that when you read the whole Bible. I'll say one verse of scripture. You can't cheat, you gotta go it off the top of your head. Send you something in the mail. Tax free.
SPEAKER_02:Stay tuned. Yeah. Um attending church.
SPEAKER_00:Boom.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, boom.
SPEAKER_00:Following his teachings kind of goes along with that. I mean, reading the Bible, attending church, and then what goes with those two?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Following his teachings. Right.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, and give yourself space and time. I mean, you're not gonna learn all this at the beginning, but the like I said earlier, it's it requires an ongoing effort and commitment, and it just evolves and it's just amazing and crazy.
SPEAKER_00:And then the last thing that well, what I was kind of talking about earlier, a second ago, following scripture. If I have if you have one verse that you want to put on the website, message us. I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um, one of my favorite ones right now that I've been um using a lot of, and I wanted to share this because I think it's it's a good one. James uh one, five, chapter one, verse five. It says, If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God who will who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. So when I pray about, uh I need a direction on, you know, do I take this job or do I not take this job? Should I hold back and wait or should I move forward? That would be a prayer that I would say, Father God, give me wisdom on what your plan is for me in this decision that is sitting in front of me. And that word wisdom is is key. And I feel like I get prayers answered frequently when I when I use those words and say that. So it's James 1 5, chapter 1, verse 5, if you want to look it up.
SPEAKER_01:All right.
SPEAKER_02:And then worship, well, worship worship happens at church, right?
SPEAKER_00:We sing and um same with ministry.
SPEAKER_02:That's uh yeah, get involved in a ministry. Um, that that can happen at church. This is a ministry. Our podcast is a ministry. You know, we're we are trying to teach people about Jesus and and um encouraging them to open up to consider letting him him into their hearts. Uh, worship also just want to mention um radio station, Christian radio stations, you know, or Spotify. I mean, you can hear him all over the place. There's you know music. Um, I saw Chris Tomlin, he's a very famous Christian artist, saw him back in November with a girlfriend, and it was amazing. We were really close. Yeah. Talked about that forever. Still am, right? Um, so that is really what we want to talk about today. Um, there is one exercise I want to wrap up with. And, you know, we talked about um how Jesus is knocking at the door, waiting for us. Um, I'd like to ask you to, if you're comfortable with this, just close your eyes. And I'm going to say that verse. And we'll see if you're called to open the door. So if you close your eyes, Jesus speaks. Here I am. I stand at the door and knock. And if anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they will eat with me. This is your invitation, friends. Are you going to open the door? And if you open the door, what happened next? All right, again, we are very curious to hear about your experience with this exercise and would love to hear about it. Um, this isn't anything that we're gonna use to, you know, share or any of that. We just want to know what that was like for you.
SPEAKER_00:Just want to hear some feedback.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, feedback. And um, if you would just again go to Debbie and Greggold.com and scroll down to the bottom on the home page, scroll to the bottom, and you'll see a contact section there and you can give us a message there. We would be really appreciative of that. Um, I guess the other thing maybe to um um talk about is I I've written a Bible study um that will help you on your journey to a relationship with Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_00:And you can download it.
SPEAKER_02:And you can download it. It's a digital download. It's called Crossing Over, uh, Choosing a Relationship with Jesus. And um yeah, that is on our website as well. There's a there's a tab for Bible studies. I guess anything else that you have? I mean, you can say you can like us.
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